The challenges of a nuclear Iran
This morning the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations held a hearing entitled A Nuclear Iran: Challenges and Responses.
The hearing got underway about 10 minutes late. Chairman Lugar explained that the committee was just coming from a closed briefing with Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte.
The committee first heard from Sen. Rick Santorum. He spoke briefly about Iran and a bill he introduced. The bill, S. 333, is called the Iran Freedom and Support Act, and was introduced a year ago. It was referred to this Senate Foreign Relations Committee and is still in the committee. (Sen. Santorum also spoke on the Senate floor this morning about Iran.)
The witnesses the committee heard from are:
- Ronald F. Lehman, II
Director
Center for Global Security Research
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
- Dr. Patrick Clawson
Deputy Director for Research
The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
- Dr. Ray Takeyh
Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies
Council on Foreign Relations
I'll briefly summarize a few of the points they made. Copies of their written statements should be available later at the hearing page linked to above.
Lehman:
* The UN Security Council should make clear that further proliferation is a danger
* Iran does have a nuclear weapons program underway
* We should not forget about Iran's efforts to build reprocessing capability
* We should recognize that sanctions could fail
* People have not yet internalized how serious a nuclear-armed Iran would be
Clawson:
* Given the problem surrounding WMDs in Iraq, we face an uphill battle convincing the public of the dangers Iran poses
* Iranian President Ahmadinejad made his remarks last fall about wiping Israel off the map at a conference entitled A World Without Zionism and America
* Ahmadinejad essentially says if Islam is to rule the world, Iran should pave the way
* We should pay attention to what Iranian leaders say they are doing. They are open about their nuclear program, though they deny it is for weapons
* He spoke to Pakistanis who likened the possibility of Pakistani warheads on Iranian missiles as to American warheads on German missiles in the 1980s
* There are things we can do outside the UN Security Council, such as sell anti-missile technology to Arab and Gulf States, and take steps in conjunction with other nations to keep the Straits of Hormuz open
Takeyh:
* He proposes postponing a UN Security Council discussion of Iran till September, and in the interim hold talks involving the US, the EU3, Iran, Russia and China. (I think this would only buy more time for Iran.)
* Military action will not slow down Iran's nuclear program. It is too dispersed, hardened and urbanized
* The US agreement with India on India's nuclear program tells Iran that the US is not so much concerned with profilferation, but with Iran itself
The hearing got underway about 10 minutes late. Chairman Lugar explained that the committee was just coming from a closed briefing with Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte.
The committee first heard from Sen. Rick Santorum. He spoke briefly about Iran and a bill he introduced. The bill, S. 333, is called the Iran Freedom and Support Act, and was introduced a year ago. It was referred to this Senate Foreign Relations Committee and is still in the committee. (Sen. Santorum also spoke on the Senate floor this morning about Iran.)
The witnesses the committee heard from are:
- Ronald F. Lehman, II
Director
Center for Global Security Research
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
- Dr. Patrick Clawson
Deputy Director for Research
The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
- Dr. Ray Takeyh
Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies
Council on Foreign Relations
I'll briefly summarize a few of the points they made. Copies of their written statements should be available later at the hearing page linked to above.
Lehman:
* The UN Security Council should make clear that further proliferation is a danger
* Iran does have a nuclear weapons program underway
* We should not forget about Iran's efforts to build reprocessing capability
* We should recognize that sanctions could fail
* People have not yet internalized how serious a nuclear-armed Iran would be
Clawson:
* Given the problem surrounding WMDs in Iraq, we face an uphill battle convincing the public of the dangers Iran poses
* Iranian President Ahmadinejad made his remarks last fall about wiping Israel off the map at a conference entitled A World Without Zionism and America
* Ahmadinejad essentially says if Islam is to rule the world, Iran should pave the way
* We should pay attention to what Iranian leaders say they are doing. They are open about their nuclear program, though they deny it is for weapons
* He spoke to Pakistanis who likened the possibility of Pakistani warheads on Iranian missiles as to American warheads on German missiles in the 1980s
* There are things we can do outside the UN Security Council, such as sell anti-missile technology to Arab and Gulf States, and take steps in conjunction with other nations to keep the Straits of Hormuz open
Takeyh:
* He proposes postponing a UN Security Council discussion of Iran till September, and in the interim hold talks involving the US, the EU3, Iran, Russia and China. (I think this would only buy more time for Iran.)
* Military action will not slow down Iran's nuclear program. It is too dispersed, hardened and urbanized
* The US agreement with India on India's nuclear program tells Iran that the US is not so much concerned with profilferation, but with Iran itself






9 Comments:
At Thu Mar 02, 03:13:00 PM, Anonymous said…
The issue is not having the right to have nuclear weapons. The issue is the nature of the regime and it's expansionist ideology. Why aren't we afraid of India and Pakistan having nuclear weapons? Because they don't have in their constitution clearly written that their goal is to exapnd Islam throughout the world and to take Jeuresalem back. One needs to only study Khomeini's primary goals for the Islamic revolution throught the region.
At Thu Mar 02, 04:20:00 PM, Anonymous said…
Iran’s President: Islam to dominate world in “near future”
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6031
At Thu Mar 02, 06:14:00 PM, Jeff said…
Agreed, Anon. As annoying as France can be sometimes, we're not worried about them lighting off nukes either. It is about their ideology.
And thanks for the good link.
At Thu Mar 02, 06:19:00 PM, C-Low said…
Military action will not slow down Iran's nuclear program. It is too dispersed, hardened and urbanized
Correction: One night of bombings and missiles 98’Clinton style will not slow “”””””
This false assumption must be checked by our leadership. The idea that military action cannot stop Iran is retarded. It will lead only to the almighty LLL answer “containment” crapout. Containment wont work especially in a part of the world were our presence unlike in W Europe will be seethed about 24/7 by the locals. That’s violent seething too not just your average French Pooh Pooh.
I believe we could crush Iran with a full air campaign yes campaign think GW1 that’s the 91’ Gulf war. Totally devastate their WMD facilities, air defenses, leadership top down, Revolutionary forces, army, navy, occupy the Arab S oil area along with the islands in the choke point strait, pound targets of opportunity, hamper transportation infrastructure.
Declare a nation wide No-Fly-Zone wait if the “revolution” crawls out support it with arms maybe SOF if not kill the leadership until one pops up that will accept a cease fire on our terms which after Saddam we should be able to write well with a permanent no-fly limited military size type and of course specific WMD inspections and pre-determined punishment for any breech of such.
If this all fails we go to containment with a slow advance as pop centers wake up to our way of thinking. It will be a lot easier to contain a basically wild west zone called Iran but with no oil money, no industry (at least none we allow to appear) to make weapons, no large military units (no-fly-zone keeps it that way),
An Iran with nukes, chem/Bio, missiles galore, terrorist, navy, air assets, heavy Armour, Industry, oil money flow, ect… will be un-containable. The embargo sanctions and “containment” wont last 5yrs if it makes that.
At Thu Mar 02, 09:01:00 PM, Anonymous said…
Good Read:
http://www.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=publication_details&id=3888
At Thu Mar 02, 09:05:00 PM, Leo Pusateri said…
As usual, Jeff--great synthesis.
Thanks for the great, albeit continuingly disturbing update.
-Leo-
At Thu Mar 02, 10:22:00 PM, Jeff said…
C-Low, I would certainly think that a strong military strike would at least slow down the program. Certainly the big question is how good is our intelligence, and how much is there that we know nothing about.
But if we're in for a penny on military strikes, we'd have to be in for a pound. And that I think is the wild card. How far we willing to go to protect against unknown remaining nuclear facilities.
At Thu Mar 02, 11:50:00 PM, C-Low said…
Jeff
I would agree they would slow it down if we didn’t end up in full campaign anyway. But Our intelligence I would bet is missing some facilities a one niter will miss some whereas a campaign will get it or keep it from being usable.
Israel even if they could make a one niter couldn’t hold and Iran will retaliate against US anyway. Not to mention talk about turning the Arab street against US they don’t like our gov they hate the Israeli race. My personal opinion is Israel couldn’t make the range. Israel is light on tankers, cant sneak over Iraq, Turkey strong air force, Saudi Arabia strong air force, their option would be limited to submarine missile strikes from the Indian ocean (very limited). Short US letting them use Iraqi bases I don’t see it. I would rather hold them as a reserve force in case Syria gets stupid or we really do lose the street in a worst-case scenario.
Bottom line like you said “in for a penny in for a pound” whether we do a one niter or if we take on a full-fledged campaign the retaliation will be the same. Iran is going to hit US with all they got real hard their pres wants the big war to ring in the 12mahdi.
This is one of those rare times in history were we can advert the horrors to come BUT such will require substantial sacrifice today.
Besides takeyh’s surrender what really disappoints me is the problems of Iran with a Nuke were not even discussed. This meeting should be laying down the consequences of inaction verses action. I just don’t think half stepping is a option on this one its do it or not.
The next year or so is going to determine what we are going to be doing 10-15yrs from now.
At Fri Mar 03, 10:10:00 AM, Jeff said…
C-Low,
You hit on an important issue, that by acting today, we can prevent a worse confrontation down the road. That was precisely the motivation President Bush gave for going into Iraq.
As you say, Iran would retaliate, and it could get ugly. But, how much worse would it be to have nukes in the hands of the planet's chief sponsor of terrorism?
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