Peace Like A River


It was a wide river, mistakable for a lake or even an ocean unless you'd been wading and knew its current. Somehow I'd crossed it... Now I saw the stream regrouped below, flowing on through what might've been vineyards, pastures, orhards... It flowed between and alongside the rivers of people; from here it was no more than a silver wire winding toward the city. - Leif Enger, Peace Like A River

Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Some thoughts on Kirkuk and Iran

C-Low had a couple of excellent comments in this post, and I thought I'd reply to them here, as he brings up some things worth paying attention to. His comments were:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18931927-23109,00.html

“IRAN was ready to share its nuclear technology with other countries, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said after talks with the visiting Sudanese president, state television reported.
"Iranian nuclear scientists can easily train other Islamic countries in uranium enrichment and nuclear fuel production," he was quoted as saying”

Iran Ayatollah Khamenei chief Mullah not only offers to share nuclear technology proliferation but offers such to SUDAN the very nation that just the other day Bin Laden requested all Jihadi’s to move to aid. Coincidence or organized effort?

A massive number of AQ organization leadership is safe in Iranian “house arrest” and the “my enemies enemy is my friend” logic plays between AQ and Iran more so than even most others.

On another issue what’s your take on this:

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/iraq/articles/20060424.aspx

“Meanwhile, members of the pro-Iran Badr militia are showing up in the northern oil city of Kirkuk. That's odd, because Shia Arabs are a small minority up there,”

The above part specifically, I read somewhere else that even some Mahdi boys were yoked up in Kirkuk lately also which may explain partially that mysterious oil fire in Kirkuk. Maliki dropped out of the Saddam army because of the Iranian/Iraqi war. I wonder just how much of the Shia are going to side with Iran if/when we jump. I kinda thought the Badr had moved more to US by way of Sistani and their battling with Mehdi/Sadr but this report of them moving into Kirkuk makes me wonder if Iran is not pulling the strings.

I get the Turkey and even Iran moving troops to the border to fight their rebels at least on the Iran side those rebels I would imagine they are getting some assistance from US and maybe even assisting some SOF infiltration in the area. The Turkey side I would guess due to both some blowback from our support to the Iranian and Iraqi Kurds being diverted their way but also I would imagine they are at the sometime moving to reinforce their border with Iran in case we decide to act on Iran.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2453851.0847222223.html

This article is interesting 250k sounds like more than just a rebel deterrence force I wonder what kind of mix that force is going to be and how much heavy mech force is in that?

Lot of activity on all side latley huh AQ messages, Iranian wildeyed statements, UN uselessness, toops moving here and thier, reports of this and that.

Here is another link with some more detail about the Sadr militia moves into Kirkuk.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/24/AR2006042401560.html?nav=hcmodule

Sounds to me like Iran positioning itself to strike at oil facilities in as many places as they can. Fox just confirmed that the Iranian Mullah has threatened to hit oil facilities around the world.

Why don’t the media ever ask the obvious question "how can Iran expect to attack US interest all over the world if they don’t have long range navy/air/missile assets with worldwide range? And if the obvious answer is terrorist how can we allow a nation that considers terrorist as their main weapon of retaliatory choice to have Nukes? Is their any cost or risk of action today comparable to the cost or risk of action tomorrow against a belligerent Nuclear armed Iran think how many cities will it cost not how many lives?"


I had the same question when Iran had its little visit with Sudan's president, and started talking about nuclear technology. Mere coincidence that Osama put out his little rant this week and happened to specifically mention Sudan? It does seem a bit like a marketing campaign is going on.

I think I've mentioned before as well, it seems like Iran is trying to portray itself as a champion for all of Islam, for Sunnis as well as Shiites. Sunni nations, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt, are nervous about a nuclear Iran as well, and Iran seems to be saying, no, we're all Muslims, we're doing all this for you too. Don't know how well that will fly, but Iran has gone out of its way to pretend to care about the Palestinians. Iran has been running all over the Middle East for months meeting with various Arab states. And now Sudan? I think Iran is trying to round up a nice posse for itself.

I too think the fact the Badr militia might be drifting into Kirkuk might have something to do with Iran's troubles with the Kurds in the NW corner of Iran. There has been unrest there, (see here for instance) and Iran may be setting up a way to hit back against the Kurds in Iraq who may be providing shelter for Iranian rebels.

As for al-Sadr, his militia has stirred up trouble in Kirkuk in the past. In February, he went around on a little tour ( I think designed to bolster his image), and in an interview with Al Jazeera he said Kirkuk should belong to all Iraq, and all should benefit from it. To me, that's a polite way of saying the Kurds should think twice before trying to claim it. So, since Sadr is also friendly with Iran, he might also be a tool to cause trouble there.

EStripes had much the same article on Saturday as the WaPo article you mention.

It's hard to believe folks like Sadr are so concerned about the plight of the Sunnis living in Kirkuk. As you well point out, surely some power politics at work.

3 Comments:

  • At Wed Apr 26, 01:55:00 PM, C-Low said…

    http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/008516.php#comments

    Colt @ Winds picked this up. It is about how Hamas has been rounded up in Jordan tied in with some Syrian resources in a plot to stir up trouble in Jordan. This fits well with the other recent stories of how Iran is pulling all the angles it can to deflect as much as possible heat off of them.

    Not surprising how all the AQ videos and Hamas/Hezbollah/ sudden reemergence of Egyptian terrorism coincides with the Iranian tour of the ME and the pressure being poured on by the US/West. These terrorist groups know full well (even if there is not love loss between them and Iran) once we bring Iran to kneel and isolate Syria the US will be able to stand at arms length and through money, weapons, and some SOF assistance of the different Moderate Muslim groups hunt the terrorist down like dogs in the street.


    I wonder how long it will be before the Norks start rattling their sabers to try to draw off some heat from Iran. I don’t think they would go hot over Iran (after all they are still a Chinese owned proxy) but I would imagine some loud saber rattling a lot more than was given for Iraq. Maybe even some missile launches over Japan or Nork SOF engagements on the DMZ been awhile since we had those. Although keeping to the Iraq model this maybe in the later stages of our pressure.

    We are fast approaching that final push, Iran is rallying as many supporters as possible. I would expect terrorist strikes on many simultaneous fronts. Oil facilities across the ME in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, lower Caucasus, Turkey, major civilian attacks across EU/US, full revolution level insurgency in Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine.

    This is the big show and real sacrifices will be required. We are at a turning point in the WOT Afghanistan was like N Africa and Iraq was like Normandy. We are ready to break out of the hedge rows, if we go defensive everything to this point was a waste and we will be slowly pushed out of Normandy (Iraq) and Europe (ME), if we push on and go full alt we will see the bloodiest fighting as our enemy seeing their doom pull out all stops. One major difference between WW2 & WOT is that when the German gov fell it was over but in the WOT it will be the beginning of a mopping operation that will last generations but the bright part is that mopping can be done by the Moderate Muslims we support at arms length.

    An unfortunate and ironic aspect of the campaign on Iran will that it will truly show just how unbelievably successful the Iraq campaign was. Our Mainstream Media and even our leadership by way of not disputing and forcing the issue has done US a great disservice in the Iraq phase of the WOT by not putting the campaign in historical comparison.

     
  • At Wed Apr 26, 08:10:00 PM, Jeff said…

    I hope your hedgerow analogy is not apt in terms of the casualties ahead. But I think it's descriptive of how we seem to be bogged down a bit in terrain where we don't necessarily see the way out, and the enemy is tenacious and determined.

    I think you're right in that a strong offensive is needed, and you're also correct that our MSM will not help in explaining what is at stake.

    Interesting thought about NK. They have been fairly quiet lately. Will be interesting to see what they do if things heat up.

     
  • At Thu Apr 27, 04:39:00 PM, C-Low said…

    I hope to I am wrong about the casualties coming I do leave hope because I actually thought the mop up operation in Iraq was going to be allot more costly than it has been (I had used Chechnya as a reference on that thankfully I was wrong). Unfortunately I think the stars are lined up for a Berlin moment for our enemies and the terrorist groups who must see the hopelessness if Iran is won by US.

    I am a plan expect the worst and thank the stars for anything short kinda person. I like setting new precedents for the better but I fear Iraq has got the bar above reasonable expectations.

     

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